Join VeggieTales and What’s in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, senior editor Christianity Today’s Leadership Journal) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.


Episode 509: The War on Winsomeness & Interfaith Cooperation with Eboo Patel The Holy Post

Despite the uproar over the leaked Supreme Court decision overturning Roe, it turns out 80 percent of Americans have a nuanced view of the issue. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss responses to last week’s show and ask why are we nuanced about some moral issues and absolutist about others. Then, conservative Christians are attacking Tim Keller for his winsome, non-partisan approach to Christianity. They say winsomeness may have worked in the past, but now the culture war is so dangerous that we need a more aggressive and offensive approach. Are they right? Skye interviews Eboo Patel, the founder and president of Interfaith America, about his new book “We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy.” Patel, a Muslim-American, talks about the transformative role Christianity had on his calling, why interfaith cooperation is essential, and what concerns him about the current culture of activism in America. Plus, scientists discover the Mariah Carey of jellyfish. “Christian Asks” Patreon Bonus: News Segment 0:00 – Intro and updates Christian’s documentary – 3:29 – News of the Butt 10:03 – Responses to last week’s show 17:03 – Nuance versus absolutism 28:55 – Tim Keller and the war on winsomeness55:26 – Holy Post Patreon Interview with Eboo Patel“We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy” – Interfaith America – https://www.interfaithamerica.org57:30 – Eboo Patel – intro 59:20 – Background and calling 1:14:13 – Culture of activism in America 1:26:45 – Interfaith cooperation1:31:49 – CreditsResources and articles mentioned in news segment: ProGrace: prograce.orgHoly Post Episode 254: Rethinking Our Response to Abortion with Angie Weszely –“America’s Abortion Quandry,” Pew Research Center –“Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid” by Jonathan Haidt – Keller Twitter thread – Wood, “How I Evolved on Tim Keller” – D. James, “Is it Time to Move Past Tim Keller?” – French, “A Critique of Tim Keller Reveals the Moral Devolution of the New Christian Right” Dreher, “Tim Keller & Myxomatosis Christians” – The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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  2. Episode 508: No More Roe? & the New Scandal of the Evangelical Mind with Mark Noll
  3. Episode 507: Dubuque, Demons, & Defying Patriarchy (Part Deux) with Beth Allison Barr
  4. French Friday: Football Prayer & CRT Hysteria
  5. Episode 506: The Pro-Life Case for Paid Family Leave with Rachel Anderson
  6. Episode 505: Stupid Social Media & Learning to Love While Offended with Albert Tate
  7. Episode 504: Political Worship Rallies, Trump’s Racial Topography, & New Picks from Drew Dyck
  8. Episode 503: Woke Disney, Teens in Crisis, & Racial Reconciliation with Derwin Gray
  9. Episode 502: Secular Sexual Ethics, Faith, & Autism with Daniel Bowman Jr.
  10. French Friday: Trans Athletes & Good Liberalism